“Basic Income: the best response to the new world of work?,” RSA podcast series, 20 March 2017, with John Thornhill (Innovation Editor at the Financial Times) and Jon Cruddas (Labour MP), moderated by Anthony Painter (RSA). 

https://rsaradio.simplecast.com/episodes/work-shift-is-basic-income-the-right-response-to-the-new-world-of-work-9ba28e02